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does the cpu come it like a standard ziff

New Messagedoes the cpu come it like a standard ziff (modified 0 times) redbudz
does the cpu come it like a standard ziff
04-21-2000 17:52:42

New MessageRE:does the cpu come it like a standard ziff (modified 0 times) hardware1
Yes. Fan cooler on top. You can probably add a better chip. You can bet someone will post results.
04-24-2000 03:16:34

New MessageRE:does the cpu come it like a standard ziff (modified 0 times) Jopasm
I *think* the chipset only supports MediaGX processors - you might can go to a faster MediaGX, but don't just slap in any old Socket 7 chip.
04-27-2000 12:55:54

New MessageRE:does the cpu come it like a standard ziff (modified 0 times) stepson
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That would kinda suck ... the socket says "Socket 7" on it, and I removed the chip, and it sure as heck at least LOOKS like a socket 7 style interface ... Anyone tried an older K6-2 or something?
04-27-2000 15:15:28

New MessageRE:does the cpu come it like a standard ziff (modified 0 times) cryogenic
Maybe someone ought to try a Winchip 200 in there... like none of us have them :)
04-27-2000 16:43:36

New MessageRE:does the cpu come it like a standard ziff (modified 0 times) as I recall
Socket 7 is a physical standard for the socket. That is the number of pins, spacing, how deep etc. It does not dictate what you plug into it beyond those parameters.

In other words, just becuase the socket will take the chip doesn't mean that the board the socket is attached to will accept it.

The mdeia gx chipset is a multimedia chipset with functionality split between the various components. You can run a faster media gx chip, but it has to be a media gx chip.

My guess is that Cyrix (as it was then) made that part of the set a Socket 7 because there were already sockets, design tools, and chip carrier manufacturing capabilities available.

I too have one of these units, and if my memory is flawed in this (it was a few years ago when this was a new product)I apologize and would be the first to rejoice at firing up a K6-3 450!

04-27-2000 16:49:12

New MessageRE:does the cpu come it like a standard ziff (modified 0 times) xiao ren
You are correct. The MediaGX CPU is not pin compatible with Pentium/K6/Winchip.
IF you can find them, 266 Mhz MediaGX chips do exist. However, my understanding is that MMX capable
MediaGX chips require the LSI CX5520 chipsets. The older 180Mhz chips used the older LSI CX5510 chipset.
The 266Mhz chips are MMX. What chipset does Websurfer pro come with?

Another problem is almost all MediaGX chips were shipped with a motherboard. It will be hard to find
"upgrade" processors... especially now that Natsemi bought the line from Cyrix

MediaGX processors are lousy performers. About 50%-60% of a comparable Pentium. That 180Mhz MediaGx
will perform similar to a Pentium 90... just barely enough for MP3 playback. Overclocking might be a
good option here.

04-27-2000 20:33:39

New MessageRE:does the cpu come it like a standard ziff (modified 0 times) _tkr_
I believe that it is a Cyrix 5530 chipset.
04-27-2000 20:36:48

New MessageRE:does the cpu come it like a standard ziff (modified 0 times) xiao ren
The 5530 will definately support faster MediaGX GX and GXm CPU's. In fact, the only ad's I've ever seen
for boards with the 5530 chipsets were the 266Mhz and 300Mhz GXm chips. I never thought Cyrix released the
300Mhz version, however. My 266 chip (with a 5520 chipset board) will OC to 300, but that's dumb luck.
04-27-2000 20:59:34

New MessageRE:does the cpu come it like a standard ziff (modified 0 times) El Barto
So there is abosolutely no way to upgrade the Cyrix CPU?
05-22-2000 20:06:48

New MessageRE:does the cpu come it like a standard ziff (modified 0 times) BcPuX
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No, it is possible. You just have to find a cyrix mediagxm chip. Someone somewhere on here posted a link to some place that was seeling them, problem is they are like 70 bucks or something
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05-22-2000 22:29:29

New MessageRE:does the cpu come it like a standard ziff (modified 0 times) Wahoone
Referring to old post by ssw207:
Single quantity GXm 266 Processors can be found here for $77..... a bit steep

http://www.ied.pios.com/onestop/partdetail.asp?mfg_code=NSC&part_number=GL-266P-70-2.9&sSearchID=3545124&rnd=949

05-23-2000 06:46:16

New MessageRE:does the cpu come it like a standard ziff (modified 0 times) El Barto
Thanks...but wouldn't it be the same just to overclock the 180Mhz to 266? Can it be clocked faster than 266? Or can this 266Mhz GXm be overclocked faster? I can't remember right now the bus speeds and multipliers...anyone?
05-23-2000 08:53:47

New MessageRE:does the cpu come it like a standard ziff (modified 0 times) greghol
The 266 can be over clocked to 300. OCing to 333 is not real stable, even at different CPU voltages. Its a shame. Someone else reported the same thing so its not my setup.

Under linux I get 100 bogus mips at 300.

Greg

05-23-2000 09:34:42

New MessageRE:does the cpu come it like a standard ziff (modified 0 times) El Barto
How about overclocking the 180Mhz to 300, or something near it (297?)? Does that work well, or is it unstable? It's a bit much, $77 for a CPU that can only really do 300Mhz. And what about the stock fan? How high should I overclock with it?
05-23-2000 11:50:03

New MessageRE:does the cpu come it like a standard ziff (modified 0 times) Inglewood
My WSP is stable at 300MHz... 30Mhzx10. I've been tempted to bump it to 33MHz FSB, but that's seems nuts. I've added extra cooling fans to the floor of the case to help exhaust the hot air in there, which I am sure helps, but I did not mess with the CPU voltages...
05-27-2000 14:07:07

New MessageRE:does the cpu come it like a standard ziff (modified 0 times) El Barto
How hot does it run? What kind of fans? Is there a special heatsink/fan I should get for the CPU, or will one from CompUSA do? Got pics?
05-27-2000 14:32:21

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