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Win98 Drivers for PCI bridge problem

New MessageWin98 Drivers for PCI bridge problem (modified 0 times) Solder Boy
Try the drivers from here http://www.avt.com.hk/mediagx/gxm3.asp It got rid of the PCI bridge not found problem.
04-28-2000 17:03:23

New MessageRE:Win98 Drivers for PCI bridge problem (modified 0 times) _MiSFiT_
Cool, thanks..

I gotta try the UDMA drivers also.

04-28-2000 17:34:07

New MessageRE:Win98 Drivers for PCI bridge problem (modified 0 times) _MiSFiT_
If anyone can get the UDMA drivers working with the onboard IDE let me know how you did it.. (win98)

I cannot get them working I keep getting conflicts with IRQ Steering.

04-28-2000 19:30:23

New MessageRE:Win98 Drivers for PCI bridge problem (modified 0 times) Solder Boy
The problem seems to be that the UDMA driver doesn't want to share IRQ15 w/ other drivers. The UDMA uses 2 IRQs. IRQ14 for primary IDE, and IRQ15 for secondary IDE. I figure that since i'm not using the D.O.C. I can just disable the UDMA secondary IDE then everything should work. But IRQ15 is used by USB and the next device inline.

The first thing I did is to disable the USB controller in the BIOS to free up IRQ15. Change the video driver from cyberpro to a regular VGA. Change the IDE controller to dual channel IDE. Disable the secondary IDE. change the ide driver back to UDMA. Change video driver back to cyber pro. Re-enable the USB controller in the BIOS. Everything worked fine.

EXCEPT, I CAN'T GET ANY PCI ETHERNET CARD TO WORK!!!! I tried Netgear FA310TX and Linksys LNE100TX. Netgear just hangs the computer when the UDMA driver is loaded. Linksys boots but said there is a conflict. Linksys USB-Ethernet works fine. But I'm using it for my IOP.

MediaGX SUCKS. I had another MediaGX board from tigerdirect a while back, had to return it because I can't get anything to work on it. Serves me right trying to save a few bucks.

I'll try an ISA ethernet card as soon as I can get my hands on one. Maybe it'll work better, because will not be on the PCI bus. I wonder if anything will work in the this PCI slot at all.

Solder Boy

04-28-2000 23:01:36

New MessageRE:Win98 Drivers for PCI bridge problem (modified 0 times) Solder Boy
Just tried a 3Com EtherLink XL PCI. It crashes system also. I hope those guys at the on board network chips thread has better luck.

Solder Boy

04-28-2000 23:17:21

New MessageRE:Win98 Drivers for PCI bridge problem (modified 0 times) _MiSFiT_
Solder boy,

I don't know if it has anything at all to do with it, but I did notice some odd things with the bios that comes on the Web Surfer..

Like for instance, there is no way to get a Adaptec 2940 to boot, always gets a device failure. I also noticed after removing the big websurfer logo from the original bios file the bios has txt that is displayed on post as Test bios or something like that..

For the hell of it I re-flashed the bios in the websurfer with a bios file from the OEM of this board, I used a 1030 bios file. I could not longer boot off my added internal IDE controller anymore, but a 2940 would then boot fine. (I also could stick an ISA ide card into the isa slot and boot off it also) My point is, do you think there could be any complication by certain things not being initialized properly or screwed up from the original bios that is in the web surfer? It bugs me that it says TEST version or something like that.

Tomorrow I am going to re-install win98 with my ISA card and the newer bios and see if win98 acts any different. I wish it didnt loose the internal IDE I added. (Well it doesnt loose it actually, it just wont boot.. If you have primary ide enabled with the OEM bios it sees the IDE attached to the motherboard just WILL NOT boot from it..) But it can actually boot from a 2940 though.. weird

Hope some of that made sense, getting tired been messing with this stuff too much last couple days.

04-29-2000 00:49:38

New MessageRE:Win98 Drivers for PCI bridge problem (modified 0 times) Inglewood
I was going to find a better place to post this, but perhaps this will help:

I first installed a DTC PCI SCSI controller to run an old IBM 1gig SCSI-II drive. Figured it was cheap storage. I installed 98 with no problem, rebooted at least a dozen times. Installed video, sound, and USB drivers. Walked away. Came back two hours later to copy over the USB Zip drive drivers and the thing wouldn't start - it would lock up hard during the Win98 startup screen. Booted into Safe Mode, disabled all the drive-related items under System Properties->Performance. Rebooted. Got into the GUI, then it locked.

Today I picked up a TekRam UW PCI SCSI controller, put it in the WebSurfer. During the SCSI BIOS screen, the TekRam reported the error "IRQ 10 assigned, unable to access IRQ, BIOS disabled." Hmm... Went into the system BIOS, set IRQ10 to ISA/Legacy and rebooted... same error message on IRQ9. Back into system BIOS, disabled all high IRQs (9,10,11,12) and rebooted. This time the TekRam was assigned to IRQ 3, no error message, and the system runs great.

I have only two theories: One, to save costs the MediaGX chipset doesn't have a "real" cascaded interrupt controller, so it can only assign low IRQs (0-7) to the PCI or ISA bus. Two, the MediaGX assigns its devices to the second interrupt controller (8-15) and doesn't like to share. Either way, forcing the PCI devices to use low interrupts solves all bus-related problems I've had, including installing PCI ethernet.

-Inglewood

04-29-2000 00:52:53

New MessageRE:Win98 Drivers for PCI bridge problem (modified 0 times) spankyboy
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Solder Boy,
Which file fixes the PCI Bridge problem? Is there a certain order you have to use when applying the files? I am having trouble with sound playing causing lockups and since the PCI bridge is the only problem in device manager, I figure thats the culprit.
Thanks for the help.
04-30-2000 10:43:34

New MessageRE:Win98 Drivers for PCI bridge problem (modified 0 times) _MiSFiT_
Solder Boy,

I could not get ANY pci ethernet adapter to work either. - Windows would always reboot and lock first time configured, then after reboot it would say it was not responding and disable it perm.

I would test this other bios to see if it made any difference, just can't boot off the internal
controller with the other bios. I think the other bios is set to NOT allow booting from internal
IDE controller. (The bios IDE detection sees the drive fine)

I am trying to disassemble this other bios to see WHY it does not allow to boot from internal IDE.

04-30-2000 11:21:51

New MessageRE:Win98 Drivers for PCI bridge problem (modified 0 times) _MiSFiT_
Good news!

I figured it out, why the ####ty support for the PCI network cards. (And away around it.. at least in my case)

AND it MIGHT possibly fix other problems.

I will explain in another thread I am about to create, so it's more likely seen by everyone. (not just those following this specific thread)

It will require re-flashing your websurfer's bios though..

04-30-2000 12:52:03

New MessageRE:Win98 Drivers for PCI bridge problem (modified 0 times) Spectrum
Didn't you make a backup of the old bios. Can't you just flash the old bios over the new one to be able to boot off the onboard IDE.
What program are you using to flash the bios?
04-30-2000 13:32:17

New MessageRE:Win98 Drivers for PCI bridge problem (modified 0 times) ckbone
Solder Boy, What specific file on that site fixes the PCI Bridge problem?
04-30-2000 16:07:47

New MessageRE:Win98 Drivers for PCI bridge problem (modified 0 times) Solder Boy
Goto http://www.avt.com.hk/mediagx/gxm3.asp get win9xallb40.zip it has the pci routing driver. Disable your USB driver in bios. Set Video to regular VGA. Installl the UDMA. Disable the secondary IDE, this will free up the IRQ15. Setup the Video w/ the cyberpro drivers. Enable the BIOS USB support. This will setup everything except for the PCI slot. I'm still trying to figure it out. My buddy has confirmed that w/ ISA NIC this configuration works. But I don't want to give up the 100base ethernet. It is also kind of that WSP used an ISA modem card instead of using the AD189B that is already on board? They are only a few components short of completing the onboard modem. It is got to be alot cheaper then using the ISA modem and the riser card.


Solder Boy

Solder Boy

04-30-2000 17:40:05

New MessageRE:Win98 Drivers for PCI bridge problem - 100base enet (modified 0 times) Whybeanal
Ok, WHY are you stuck on having 100BaseT? the mobo/processor combination wont take advantage of it and it's just a waste of a good card that can be used elsewhere. Leave it as 10base and be happy (I'd bet $$$ that you couldnt see the difference in this machine between 10 and 100 base
05-01-2000 05:41:17

New MessageRE:Win98 Drivers for PCI bridge problem (modified 0 times) pofig37
Just found this interesting comment at: http://minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au/FreeBSD-srctree/newsrc/pci/ide_pci.c.html
/*
* XXX The 5530 can do mode 2 but if you do use it, it will block all
* access to the PCI bus (and thus the ISA bus, PICs, PIT, etc. etc.) until the
* transfer is complete. Mode 2 swamps the 5530 so much it can't really cope
* with any other operations. Therefore, use mode 1 for drives that can
* do mode 2 (or more). (FALL THROUGH)
*/
Could this be the cause of the problems people having with UDMA drivers? Then setting it to use a lower transfer mode in the BIOS should fix it.
05-01-2000 10:23:42

New MessageRE:Win98 Drivers for PCI bridge problem (modified 0 times) mickeymouse
just moving this to the front to find easyer
05-13-2000 21:23:29

New MessageRE:Win98 Drivers for PCI bridge problem (modified 0 times) Gondola
WRT 10 vs 100 baseT:

Maybe he's got a 100 meg hub that doesn't switch 10?

05-15-2000 05:23:34

New MessageRE:Win98 Drivers for PCI bridge problem (modified 0 times) Solder Boy
Got the 100base NIC to work. Check this link out 274Mhz ok. But I have some problem transfering large blocks of data. Also I've managed to crashed after updating it to IE5.5.
05-15-2000 06:55:58

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