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How I hacked it - working ethernet, ISA IDE, etc.
Steps I took to end up with a working Windows 98 installation with networking

New MessageHow I hacked it - working ethernet, ISA IDE, etc. (modified 0 times) PiGod
First, let me say that having the escape key delete the post while you are typing is stupid! :) I'm now typing in notepad and I'll paste it in when I'm done. I just erased 20 minutes of typing! :(


I'm typing from my recently hacked WebSurfer. It is running a 6.4 gig, 2.5" drive that was in my i-opener until last night. :) It is being powered off the power supply in an old 486, coupled with a 2.5" to 3.5" adapter ($5 on E-Bay). I plan on splicing in a regular drive power adapter with the current motherboard power lines. The card is being driven by an old ISA IDE card from a 486. I can't determine the brand. It is strictly for IDE (not a multifunction card). I should also mention that I disabled the 4 or so IDE settings in the BIOS.

I'm viewing the output on an old CTX monitor in 800x600x16-bit mode. I'll try my 27" TV after writing this.

I'm still using the wireless keyboard and built-in mouse. Much easier to use than the i-opener's keyboard.

It will be evident by other parts of this post, but I'm running Windows 98. It is the original version from an upgrade CD (not SE, no patches, etc.).

I originally had a PCI ethernet card (3COM EtherLink 3C900B) along side the IDE card. It took a long time to get the drivers installed properly and even then it wouldn't transfer data. I think I could get it working if I tried again. I'll explain later.

Since I got a D-Link USB hub/NIC in the mail today, I decided to try to get it working. The software installed like a charm. I did have to reboot an extra time because I forgot to enable USB in the BIOS. However, even after the quick install, it wouldn't send data. It was acting the same as my PCI NIC.

I tried a bunch of fruitless exercises. I then decided to give in and go get the drivers off the web. I installed win9xallc40.zip (told it to install all the pieces, but I think the install failed part way through). It *did* get rid of the PCI bridge problem and installed two multimedia devices for audio.

I also installed the video driver (w95-208.zip).

After these two steps, I *still* couldn't get the USB ethernet to work. Very frustrating.

Since the Windows 98 installation was originally in the i-opener, I thought maybe it would benefit from a good refresher. I went into the device manager and removed *all* the devices, including the system devices. After rebooting, it started relearning. It choked once. I had to delete a couple more things from the device manager and have it relearn them. I then had to uninstall the special video drivers/utils, remove the video hardware from the device manager, and reboot in order for it to install correctly.

After doing all this, I knew I was on the right track, because winipcfg showed the USB ethernet adapter instead of the PPP it was showing before. It wasn't configured properly in the network control panel, so I had to set it to 10.0.0.2, gateway of 10.0.0.1 (that's how I'm hooked to my DSL modem, which has the real IP address), and the DNS server was already configured/remembered from previous attempts. After another reboot, I was on the net!!! =)

I think the PCI card would work if I plugged it back in. This just goes to prove that Windows really likes to relearn everything instead of being given a device list learned from another motherboard (the i-opener in this case). A reinstall of the OS is probably even better. I didn't have to do this, however.

I left the DiskOnChip plugged in the whole time, never installed UMDA drivers, never flashed the BIOS, and haven't made any hardware mods yet. I do plan on trying to get the serial port, onboard IDE, and possibly onboard ethernet working, but these aren't high priorities.

Well, I'm off to hook this up to the TV and install MS Office. This one's for my girlfriend. After that, I can get back to putting the i-opener in my car with my GPS so I can do away with paper maps and avoid the bain of men everywhere -- asking for directions! :)

Any questions, feel free to ask.

05-06-2000 00:37:46

New MessageRE:How I hacked it - working ethernet, ISA IDE, etc. (modified 0 times) PArticle man
The better path would have been to format a drive, keeping it blank except for a basic dos bootable. copy the win98 dorectory from the cd to the hdd.
boot on hard drive, run setup from the win98 directory.
full install from inside the WSP, everything is happy as a clam.
05-08-2000 05:37:26

New MessageRE:How I hacked it - working ethernet, ISA IDE, etc. (modified 0 times) BcPuX
Hmm, thats what i did in the first place, still cant get a NIC or modem (PCI) to show up..still working on it
05-08-2000 07:22:02

New MessageRE:How I hacked it - working ethernet, ISA IDE, etc. (modified 0 times) PiGod
Particle Man:

Like I said, "A reinstall of the OS is probably even better. I didn't have to do this, however." :)

BcPuX:

What are your symptoms? Do you get any warnings/errors in the device manager? Does everything *look* okay, but it just isn't transferring data? Have you configured the IP stuff in the network control panel applet?

I might be able to help if you give more information. Tell me your hardware configuration too.

Others have had success by flashing another BIOS (do a search for 4BIOS.ZIP on the BBS). I am just assuming my PCI ethernet card will now work since it had the same symptoms as the USB ethernet. They both run off the PCI bus (USB runs off the PCI bus), so PCI issues can affect them both. I could be wrong though and maybe PCI wouldn't work for me either. Did you do a fresh install or did you do something like what I did?

05-08-2000 09:23:58

New MessageRE:How I hacked it - working ethernet, ISA IDE, etc. (modified 0 times) key5000
I do have the same problem with BcPux, which mean I can not get my PCI working on modem or LAN event talk there is no problem or no error icon in system manager. I already try to fash the bios with MISFIT or 4bios.zip but it still does not work on PCI.
05-08-2000 10:07:27

New MessageRE:How I hacked it - working ethernet, ISA IDE, etc. (modified 0 times) PiGod
Did you install Windows on the WebSurfer or did you install it on another machine and then just move the drive over to the WebSurfer?
05-08-2000 15:11:49

New MessageRE:How I hacked it - working ethernet, ISA IDE, etc. (modified 0 times) HiRez
PiGod----

Question....

I'v got the d-link usb nic also,,, my problem is that Win98se sees the usb port as a "Compaq usb" port... when trying to reinstall the driver, the WS hangs & then reboots w/o installing the driver... any sugestions?

05-08-2000 15:19:12

New MessageRE:How I hacked it - working ethernet, ISA IDE, etc. (modified 0 times) PiGod
Mine sees it as Compaq too. That's not a bug as far as I know. I'm just guessing that D-Link uses the same drivers or hardware as Compaq. Mine works fine with it being seen as Compaq. You might have confused it by installing twice. Try deleting the device in the device manager and then reinstall the drivers.
05-10-2000 15:00:26

New MessageRE:How I hacked it - working ethernet, ISA IDE, etc. (modified 0 times) PiGod
I forgot to include some new information for my hack:


I am now running the machine with the hard drive inside it without the use of a 486 for power. I did this by taking the power supply-side connector off the power cable. I then took a hard drive power cable extender (Radio Shack has them as do many other stores) and managed to take off the wrong end even though I thought I checked before ripping it off to make sure I was correct. :) I didn't find this out until after I had stripped the wires from both the extender cable and the original cable, had twisted the two together, and had crimped the original tips from the WebSurfer power cable back on. I just had the wrong gender. I then took a hard drive power cable splitter (also at Radio Shack or other stores) and used it as a gender changer by just using the females from the ends of the "Y". One went to the wrong gendered power connector now spliced into the power supply and the other went to the hard drive. The source of the splitter (a male connector) is left unused.

I coiled up the extra IDE cable and put the hard drive on top of the bundle. This keeps the hard drive from touching the motherboard. I then just closed the thing up without anchoring the drive. I told my GF not to move it. :)

Actually, I think there is enough tension with the cable under it and with the connector keeping the drive from twisting, that the drive probably won't go anywhere even if the unit is turned on end or upside-down.

05-10-2000 15:10:28

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