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Has the Websurfer Password been cracked?

New MessageWebsurfer Password (modified 0 times) Dropkick
Has anyone cracked the password yet? I would think you could mount the flash disk with the QNX on it in Linux, then crack the shadow file using the QNX decription program. Let me know if this even works, or if the password has been found. I'd try it myself, but I'm waiting for my IDE controller to be shipped.

Dropkick

04-30-2000 21:06:30

New MessageRE:Websurfer Password (modified 0 times) dipdork
and did you reach the login prompt? How?
04-30-2000 21:14:27

New MessageRE:Websurfer Password (modified 0 times) Dropkick
no, what I'm saying is what if you install linux on a HD, then from linux mount the flash disk... you can then decript the shadow file and find the password...
04-30-2000 21:17:12

New MessageRE:Websurfer Password (modified 0 times) BcPuX
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i want that password to the control panel thru that secret key thing...
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04-30-2000 21:20:08

New MessageRE:Websurfer Password (modified 0 times) meathook
Are you talking about the passwords for the Registry and Control Panel or what password??

to get the password prompt, let QNX load and then press:

ctrl + alt + g = registry
ctrl + alt + m = Control Panel

thanks
meathook

04-30-2000 21:21:22

New MessageRE:Websurfer Password (modified 0 times) Dropkick
What I'm trying to say, is the above procedure is a way to find out what the control panel and registry passwords are.
04-30-2000 21:27:54

New MessageRE:Websurfer Password (modified 0 times) bag of nuts
Hint:

This box does not "call home" if you go in through the ctl-shift-m setup.

It does in ay other case.

Cheers.
ex tech.

05-01-2000 10:50:01

New MessageRE:Websurfer Password (modified 0 times) diverse
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ok.. sorry for the long post.. got alot to share... Also I am posting this in a couple places on purpose since it has technical as well as general info.

Acording to the BB, someone else had been poking around theire website.. well I had been too... well not just their site.. but the huge block of IP's they have. I was waiting to organice my info better.. but I guess it's time to pass on the knowledge.. let someone else filter and organize. oh, and yes the most interesting stuff is at the bottom.. the password and spec sheet, if you're not interested in what the company is up to.. you may want to skip down to there.

DISCLAIMER:
All this info is available on there servers.. I'm not stealing or copying any tradesecrets, Copyrighted Material, or in any other way violating any known laws intentionaly! I am also under no signed or verbal agreement with websurfer (such as the TOS). I am not condoning or suggestin that you do anything illegal with this knowledge.. or illegally pry into websurfers company. :)

first of all.. don't bother trying to social engineer anything out of techsupport, they outsource there tech support to a place that handles support for hundreds of companies.. so you can't get an engineer on the phone or anything.. the tech people simply aren't trained with much info, and don't even work directly for websurfer. also, as someone else mentioned the company is based in canada.. so terrance and philip probably have something to do with this whole thing.

http://upgrade.websurfer.com/UpgradeModules/
used to upgrade the websurfer automagicly.. not much there right now

http://register.websurfer.com/Registration/
not much.. just interesting that earthlink and mindspring are listed. mind spring is also here:
http://www.websurfer.com/mindspring/ and http://www.websurfer.com/msportal/
when are we going to start seeing the bestbuy / mindspring version?

http://www.websurfer.com/Press/MediaKits/PasswordPage/MediaPresentations/mediapresentations.html
this was posted above.. but i wanted to provide this alternate link (had html version, not just pdf)

wanna know all the marketing details? check out this page and all the side menu items.. interesting info on costs/etc.
http://www.websurfer.com/details/packages.html

http://www.websurfer.com/test/
must be testing for a new layout of the website.. couple neat things like it mentions: There are 2 devixes.. webpad, screeenphone, kitchen appliance, etc., and they are going to use pretty 3d renderings to show them all, since they don't exist yet!

http://web.websurfer.com
this is the site that your websurfer accesses as a homepage/portal once it's all setup

http://web.websurfer.com/usermanual.html same as printed manual I think, in case you lost yours (useless pretty much)

http://web.websurfer.com/allwell/
directory full of stuff.. they still haven't disabled directory listing here.. most off this is all the printed manuals and other stuff that comes with the websurfer, including such things as the box design and even fcc sticker that goes on the thing. there is one more intersting item though:
http://web.websurfer.com/allwell/BuildC-EVO-CD-1616-7_4N-US-N00-1-1-1_21-YY.zip
this appears to be the entire compiled 12 meg binary of the os that is on your DOC. notice the number matches that of your websurfer when you do ctrl + GOTO-key (2 keys left of spacebar) (thanks to "done waitin" for the original keyboard command)

not sure what all this is yet.. maybe someone else could take the time to look.. I'm swamped right now.
http://web.websurfer.com/registration/specs/
http://web.websurfer.com/registration/specs/MalibuServerSRSv2.zip
http://web.websurfer.com/registration/specs/MindSpringMiddleWare.zip

http://telephony.websurfer.com:8000 perhaps is interesting to someone.

http://websurfer.snap.com heh, so the are inbed/trying to get inbed with Earthlink, Compusa, Snap, and Mindspring.. who else I wonder? will microsoft's new xbox kill them?

oh yeah.. and saving the best for last:

http://209.5.32.201/ interesting eh? but no links really work... however on that server we get:

http://209.5.32.201/WebsurferTests/ (tells stuff about your websurfer.. only works using theire browser though)

and here is my almost favorite: http://209.5.32.201/UpgradeModules/ (hurry before the turn off directory listing!)
why is that so kewl you ask, because.. if you download: http://209.5.32.201/UpgradeModules/upgradepkg-boot-n.tgz
then decompress it .. you find a file called registry.new which has lotsa info.. like the passowords to the key combo's listed in this thread:
http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=wstech&Post=91
and even more key combos.

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and in my best cable-guy voice... the password is: f1n9eR
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there are other passwords, but that is the control panel read/write one.

so, with this info.. hopefully some people will keep poking around and find more about the qnx that's on there... on a seperate note/install, It would be kewl to make a custom qnx mp3 player and put that one there.. no overhead.. just a home/car mp3 player box and os/app.

ok, my favorite ever link, woo hoo... http://web.websurfer.com/emarfr/Client%20Spec%201.0.zip

well yallll, hope this has been fun.. sorry for the long ass post! Hope too see alot of follow up post if anyone figures out how to use some of this info.. but either way.. it was fun. oh, if any of these files get moved.. someone email me, and I will mirror them on my site http://www.geocities.com/d1v3rs1ty/

this project is great fun.. thanks to all that are involved.

05-01-2000 12:25:46

New MessageRE:Websurfer Password (modified 0 times) MeatHook
Ok i got this from the registry file and i want to know what the backdoor key command is!!
This is access to the Control Panel -- CA-0x38 = Ctrl + Alt + M
key = "CA-0x38"
command = "backdoor"

This is the access to the registry -- CA-0x28 = Ctrl + Alt + G
key = "CA-0x28"
command = "reset"

Now i have this one that i cant figure out, i cant figure out what CAS-0x19 equals:

key = "CAS-0x19"
command = "bypass"

If anyone has any ideas, it would be great!

Thank
MeatHook

05-01-2000 14:50:47

New MessageRE:Websurfer Password (modified 0 times) done waitin
diverse, just wanted to thank you. you are the man (or woman)n whatever the case may be. VERY good job. Some of the links posted above are dead. I am looking forward to the mirror posted on your sight. Finally into QNX. thanks
05-01-2000 15:55:31

New MessageRE:Websurfer Password (modified 0 times) diverse
Profile
heh, thanks.. just to clear that up i'm a guy!
ok, well i see they are doing some reactive security.. too bad for them they didn't do a little pro-active earlier.

Just now I wasn't able to even get to http://www.websurfer.com , not sure if they are blocking, or if someone has messed it all up while doing some intrusive hacking. (iza just browzin da site massa.. iza didn't know dat you didn't want none dem link published.. guessa ya shoulda not putz em out in da plain ole sight un all.)

The whitepaper link is dead (it's not very usefull anyway).. the news link is: http://www.websurfer.com/Press/MediaKits/PasswordPage/WXACPrez/wxacprez.html
like you said, alot of the other stuff is dead too.. I've got to get back to work.. but I'll post mirrors of the files tonight for people.

05-01-2000 16:04:10

New MessageRE:Websurfer Password (modified 0 times) done waitin
Thanks again, I'll be looking forward to the mirror tonight. especially since It appears that All but 2 of the above links are dead.
Your the MAN
05-01-2000 16:39:25

New MessageWEBSURFER CONTROL PANEL PASSWORD FOUND!!! (modified 0 times) ms662412
Thanks to kinky, we have been able to find the password for the Control Panel on the WS. To access the password prompt hit - Ctrl+Alt+M Once your are prompted to enter a pass (HERE IT IS!) - f1n9eR There you go, kinky may not have realized but has found something that alot of people wanted to find out. Thank you once again Kinky!!!
L8tr
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<I'll re-install on you!>
05-02-2000 16:49:18

New MessageRE:Websurfer Password (modified 0 times) puzzel
I just now tried the password f1n9eR and
it won't work on mine, can anyone else confirm this please. Thanx
05-03-2000 10:21:41

New MessageRE:Websurfer Password (modified 0 times) Enrico_Suave
Worked fine for me... The PWD is case sensitive though...

Uhm.. on a similiar note... Has anyone gotten into the QNX shell at all?

Also is there a "3 finger salute" for rebooting QNX? I hate getting up and powercycling the machine when I have a perfectly servicable wireless keyboard in my lap. (Hmm.. i probably could accomplish this through through a key assignment in the Bios, but i'd still be interested in the QNX keyboard command..)

Enrico

05-03-2000 10:40:39

New MessageRE:Websurfer Password (modified 0 times) raistlin
dropkick -

Maybe you read my post from yesterday... I DID mount the DoC w/ linux.

05-03-2000 11:02:29

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