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Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) Setes I've seen mention of using cards in both the ISA and PCI slots simultaneously. I'm using a CUSA ISA IDE adaptor in the ISA slot. I tried using an Intel fast ethernet pci card in the other slot. BIOS recognizes it, Win98 recognizes it but states that 'since it had trouble starting the card, it will NEVER try again' (so FINAL, those words). Anyway, if anyone is using cards in both slots, please post the model of each. Or if you've got any ideas about getting the Intel to work, lemme have 'em. 05-20-2000 08:03:33

RE:Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) Brian|S| Hey Setes... I'm using the CUSA ISA IDE card as well (the multi-i/o I assume) along with a 3com EtherLink PCI 10/100 network card. I haven't thoroughly tested the network connection with this card, but it seems to work great. The speed seems to be limited by that damn ISA IDE controller though... doh! I couldn't get a Promise PCI Ultra66 card to work along with the onboard sound, nor could I get my USB Linksys adapter to work when transferring large files or groups of files. My current config looks like it'll remain. Just wanted to report my success with the CUSA IDE and a 3com 10/100. Ah, BTW, I'm using Misfit's NEW OEM bios. -Brian 05-20-2000 10:38:43

RE:Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) Brian|S| Setes, from what it sounds, you almost NEED to flash to the new bios in order to get anything PCI working. download the BIOS pack from Diversity's site: http://www.geocities.com/d1v3rs1ty/ that should get your network card going... I didn't even try mine without the new bios, and before that I couldn't get my USB ports to work either. -Brian 05-20-2000 10:53:01

RE:Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) Setes Ok.. I'll give the new bios a try. tnx. 05-20-2000 10:55:51

RE:Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) Setes Are you using the 'new' or the 'new modified' bios? 05-20-2000 11:04:55

RE:Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) Brian|S| The answer is in the readme (maybe you found it by now :) the 'new modified' bios is no different than the 'new' bios other than support for the onboard IDE controller. I'm using the 'new' bios, because I don't need that support. I'm not sure if you'd have problems with the 'modified' one, but I'd go with the 'new oem' just to be safe. -Brian 05-20-2000 11:12:30

RE:Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) Setes Well, so much for the BIOS thing. As before, the lan card is recognized by bios and win, but it's "Windows stopped responding while attempting to start this device, and therefore will never attempt to start..." What a weird message. Anyway, perhaps the Intel lan card just isn't happy. I might pull a Linksys from one of my other systems to try... I'd hate to have to go buy an 3com (pricey) card... this WS is turning into a small money pit! 05-20-2000 12:07:28

RE:Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) Setes Another strike... Found an extra Linksys LNE100TX lan card in storage. Same as the intel... recognized but not functioning. Do you think that Win95b might respond better? Ugh... I'd hate to have to do yet ANOTHER install of windoze. 05-20-2000 13:49:48

RE:Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) Amino I just got my pci linksys lne100 to work by going into the bios under pnp and setting it to manual. I then set the IRQ's that the linksys card was trying to use to legacy isa (15, 11, 10 etc..). Eventually, the card installed to IRQ 5 (which works). 05-20-2000 19:57:38

RE:Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) El Barto OK, maybe I'm slow...but how the hell can you use 2 cards at once, when only 1 card sticks out? I mean, in the back...you can only see 1 card...now, I understand the NIC is PCI, and the IDE controller is ISA, and the IDE card is completely internal...but the ISA slot is on the top! How can I hook up my RJ45 cable when the NIC cannot be seen? Pictures may help...anyone? 05-26-2000 13:25:49

RE:Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) gr8_brit Don't take offence at this... but have you seen what a PCI and an ISA card look like? If you recall, they look very different because with the rear panel at the back the components are either right sided on an ISA card and left sided on a PCI card. Another hint. Those shared PCI/ISA slots on a standard motherboard? The slot (actually the rear bracket cutout) will take either a PCI card (and screws up the use of the ISA card in the next connection point), or an ISA card and no PCI. Now, the WSP has two connectors (ISA up top and PCI down below) that is the same as a shared slot on a regular motherboard. If you are careful and remove the bracket from the ISA card (and maybe a few rear panel connectors too) then you can mount the PCI card in its slot and screw its bracket in, and then also fit the *modified bracketless* ISA card into its slot, being very careful not to short components between cards. Using electrical tape over the ISA card (or the PCI card) is probably a good idea. Got it? 05-26-2000 14:39:57

RE:Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) El Barto Thanks. Got it...everything but the electrical tape bit... 05-26-2000 20:56:42

RE:Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) BcPuX Profile | Email El Barto: Not sure if that was sarcasm about the tape or not, so I will reply anyway. if you put electrical tape on one of the cards on the side that faces the other card, it will protect the components of the card from touching. Touching is a bad thing. And when you have both cramed in there, they DO touch. I had to use electrical tape on mine, but it works fine. <--Insert Clever Comment Here--> 05-26-2000 22:52:54

RE:Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) El Barto Heh, alright. I was being serious...that's what I thought he meant, but I wasn't 100% positive...would a piece of cardboard suffice? Or would that not be good? 05-27-2000 10:23:52

RE:Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) Setes Amino, Well, I'm still struggling with this one. I have managed to get the LNE100TX on IRQ5 (by disabling USB, setting several bios pnp slots to Legacy, and moving the onboard sound to IRQ10). I'm still having the same prob. The card is recognized but not functioning. I've tried using ASD to re-enable, but still no go. I'm gonna try the Intel lan card just for the hell of it. Maybe you could post your pnp bios settings for me to try. You are using the CUSA ide card in the isa slot, eh? 05-29-2000 12:22:57

RE:Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) HiRez I've got an Iomega ZipZoom ISA card and a Ultra66 in the PCI, it was a bit if a squeeze, but they fit and WORK. My $.02 05-31-2000 13:37:01

RE:Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) Setes Only trouble is that I'm trying to get a pci nic working w/ an ISA hd controller. I've tried a usb ethernet adaptor, but it caused too many problems. 05-31-2000 14:05:09

RE:Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) Aluminum Gerbil Working with a friends we just desoldered the printer port on the isa ide controller since it was of no use, now they practically dont ven touch except for a little bit... Didnt hurt the controller at all... Gerbil 06-02-2000 22:45:55

RE:Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) BcPuX Profile | Email heh Queero aka Gerbil you stealin my thunder! Well im that friend he's talking about, and well, umm it fits but like i never reflashed the bios so the PCI doesnt work, but it fits! =] By the way, it was a CrampUSA card, that 20 dollar one may of you all have. <--Insert Clever Comment Here--> 06-03-2000 22:49:31

RE:Cards in BOTH slots (modified 0 times) Gondola It's a tight fit and will depend on the particular cards you choose. I had an old ISA IDE/SER/PAR controller and a very slim LinkSys PCI ethernet card. I ripped the external components (parallel and serial ports) and mounting bracket off the ISA controller and it fits "ok" -- it's kind of a squeeze. 06-07-2000 12:29:35

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