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New MessageHaving HEAT problems. please help. (modified 0 times) aspguy
Okay, did i miss something here? my websurfer is hot like it's in hell.

so all i did was attached a brandnew western digital 10 gig with windows98SE already installed.

i mounted the hard drive to the top of the websurfer's cover, with the hd electronic side facing up.
then i closed the websurfer up, then ran the pc. it runs fine, no problems other than..

it takes a LONG time for things to be processed, is this because of the 16 ram, or the processor chip, or the ENORMOUS HEAT the entire websurfer case has

it feels really hot>

what should i do? thanks

aspgu

05-24-2000 01:15:00

New MessageRE:Having HEAT problems. please help. (modified 0 times) ckbone
First off......Win98 will run slow as hell on 16 meg memory....consider 32 meg a bare minimum. Buy a 32 meg chip and use it with the 16 meg one you have, although 128 meg will perk the whole thing up. Find an old 486 cpu fan and mount it outside the case, by the power cord, blowing out(cut some larger holes there for the fan to draw through). This should clear up your heat problem. Read through all the posts on this board....the surfer can be easily over-clocked, which makes it into a respectable performer.
05-24-2000 02:31:59

New MessageRE:Having HEAT problems. please help. (modified 0 times) elvis
Similar problem: Originally put HDD in with circuitry facing up. HDD resting on DIMM stick and the cover held everything snug. Seems that config allowed the WS cover to trap the HDD circuitry heat. Just flip the drive over. This also gives the added benefit of the air circulation generated by the CPU fan.
05-24-2000 07:20:30

New MessageRE:Having HEAT problems. please help. (modified 0 times) Old+Lady
Do not overclock! This will bring heat UP.
Actually if you don’t need speed – slow it down.
Oh, and cards (and USB devices), they may load supply more than it can handle, result – more heat.
05-24-2000 08:10:51

New MessageRE:Having HEAT problems. please help. (modified 0 times) Ledfoot
Ok, being my father's son, I tend to build things like an animal would. For my WS Pro, I mounted the 2.5" hard drive in a "sled" from the laptop that I yanked the drive from. This is just a little steel bracket for all intensive purposes. I used a standoff to mount it over the power switch (flipped the switch over). The electronics side is down.

Next, I replaced the crappy heat sink on the cpu with a BIG Antec heat sink/fan combo and thermal grease. I took the stock CPU heat sink and placed it onto the square surface mount chip to the left of the CPU. I took another 486 heat sink I had and placed it on the silver chip in the center of the motherboard.

Things were still getting rather warm... SO, I took my drill and drilled a couple of hole patterns over the power supply (12 in a 3x4 grid) and over the hard drive (again 12 in a 3x4 grid), and another square arrangement over the Silver chip in the MB. With this one, I mounted another old CPU fan I had and hooked it into the 12V fan line to the right (near the power supply).

Things run MUCH cooler now and lockups don't happen anywhere near as often as they used to. I have it running at 266MHz.

Ok, so maybe it's overkill.... ??? :)

Have fun!!!

05-24-2000 16:00:00

New MessageRE:Having HEAT problems. please help. (modified 0 times) Rick
Read http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=wstech&Post=30
to see my solution involving an extra fan.

--Rick

05-25-2000 11:27:22

New MessageRE:Having HEAT problems. please help. (modified 0 times) Inglewood
Oh yeah... I thought I was the only one having massive heat problems... Not to say they weren't unexpected, but no one else mentioned... My WSP:

o Overclocked to 300Mhz
o Running 128megs RAM
o Has a giant Coppermine fan/heatsink on it
o Has a splitter on the power supply running a Maxtor 13.2gig drive and a 32x CD-ROM (sitting on top)

After I had all sorts of difficulties getting it running, I finally got it "just right" and left it on overnight playing MP3s. When I got up in the morning it was too hot to touch and had left a nice mark on the wooden shelf it was sitting on. I am sure the combination of overclocking and running so many devices off the power supply are responsible.

My solution: Drilled a pair of 1" holes in the bottom of the case, just fore of the power supply and mouted a pair of fans ripped from a hard drive bay cooler. Of course I wired those into the power supply, too.. :)

I left it on last night (14 total hours) and it was awesome... No more heat issues. It's reasonably loud, but since the fans are in the bottom they are muffled at least a little. I will try sticking the hard drive inside and see if it stays cool.

If anyone wants pictures, lemme know and I can probably get them...

05-27-2000 14:01:19

New MessageRE:Having HEAT problems. please help. (modified 0 times) BcPuX
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All i can say is....!!!! Are you kidding me?? I have to see this. Im not saying you are full of it, but jeez, its only a 45 watt power supply! I cant even see how you are getting enough power to do anything....
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05-27-2000 22:13:52

New MessageRE:Having HEAT problems. please help. (modified 0 times) ckbone
The answer to the heat problem is simple..air flow. In its stock config, the thing does not exhaust enough heat. Add to that a hard drive, an over-clocked cpu, some other devices drawing power....overheating. His fans solved the problem. The pictures I've seen of this computer as it was originally designed, show a small exhaust fan by the power cord. If that fan is strong enough , It may be sufficient. With another fan on the bottom, on mine blowing in, in back of the power button, will give you a cool computer. Mine is over-clocked, stock cpu fan, 5.25 hard drive, internally mounted 2 watt Sony amplifier, externally mounted cdrom, all driven by the Surfers own power supply. With the case closed, it runs cool to the touch for long periods, but only after the addition of those two fans.
05-28-2000 02:00:09

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