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XBox financially worth hacking?
XBox financially worth hacking?

New MessageXBox financially worth hacking? (modified 0 times) zonyl
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When we started down the path of the I-opener, WebSurfer, and epod, those machines were being sold at a ridiculous price compared to the cost of the machine due to the expected profit from service contracts.

The later machines, msn companion, siemens, etc where good deals because of closeout sales.

If you add up the components in the XBOX, you are not getting that good of a deal for a cheap PC. The only device in there that puts the manufacturing price above sell price is the GF3. Buying this to shove linux on it would seem like a waste of money and you'd be better off building your own system. From what I hear the form factor isnt even all that attractive either.

I am not saying that the XBox isnt worth "hobbyist" hacking, but the incentive to hack for a lot of people is probably a _lot_ lower than the machines we have been seeing. I would think the only people interested in the hack are people that originally bought it for playing XBox games and wouldnt mind extending their machine with a different OS option.

My opinion anyway :P
Zonyl

11-19-2001 07:12:23

New MessageRE:XBox financially worth hacking? (modified 0 times) SiliconIce
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It'll be fun though!
11-19-2001 22:03:57

New MessageRE:XBox financially worth hacking? (modified 0 times) zyxw
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I agree, for $99 it'd be fun.. but for $300 I could do some serious hardware upgrades to what I've already got...
11-20-2001 18:34:19

New MessageRE:XBox financially worth hacking? (modified 3 times) Agarious
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This seems to make it financially rewarding.

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-941230.html

07-03-2002 06:43:44

New MessageRE:XBox financially worth hacking? (modified 0 times) zonyl
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The price point of $199 starts to make it more attractive to buy, imo, then the $200K incentive to hack it. If the xbox is hacked, is it still worth you or I buying one for the intent of running linux? LinuxGuru pointed out some things here http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=bnews&Post=680&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session= this vs. a PC.

I am sure still the PIA factor of using Linux on an XBox will still keep any serious uses of such a hack to a bare minimum. Most people's counterpoints proclaim that the xbox playing games and able to run linux is a good deal, but I would have to challenge that idea as I am sure it is not a flip of the switch to go back and forth no matter what the hack involves.

I dont even think MS is all that worried about lost $$, because I do not see thousands of people clamoring over them to run linux. They are probably more interested in the negative PR resulting from such a hack, and the benefactor for the $200K reward is probably just looking to discredit MS, rather then getting a usefull machine.

07-05-2002 10:38:29

New MessageRE:XBox financially worth hacking? (modified 0 times) Linuxguru
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Thanks for the reference to the other thread. I do, however, think that the Mame hack was a very cool one, as it allowed classic games to be played through the X-Box through the TV.

I'm curious however; what were the legal grounds by which MS shut down the mame hack? I imagine that it must require a mod chip, but MS has no right to prevent that. Does it use any unlicensed MS code? That could be sticky.

07-07-2002 11:24:23

New MessageRE:XBox financially worth hacking? (modified 0 times) 02U2
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http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/07/1432243
07-07-2002 21:41:04

New MessageRE:XBox financially worth hacking? (modified 0 times) Linuxguru
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Thanks for the link to the slashdot discussion. It looks like a lot of people are debating similar issues. However, it seems to reinforce what Zonyl and I have been saying: It's more practical to repurpose a small PC into an XBox++, than to hack an XBox into a PC--.

Anyway, to each his own, and may we all continue to experience the joy of the hack.

07-08-2002 13:13:41

New MessageRE:XBox financially worth hacking? (modified 0 times) 02U2
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I very much agree. A PC into a gamers "X-Box" like machine I believe has more potential.

I am only interested in an X-Box if I should happen to find one or more in my "recycling excursions" and that has not happened yet. (If I ever do it's possible I'll probably sell it and buy PC parts).

I've been close though...Several X-Box controllers and a X-box DVD infrared receiver module.

07-09-2002 15:18:45

New MessageRE:XBox financially worth hacking? (modified 0 times) Falbert
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Overall, I think that right now, looking at it from a purely financial point of view, hacking the Xbox has to be considered as being just for the fun of it.

However, it's nice to know, too, that two or three years down the road, when the Xbox-2 is likely to come out, that there will be something that I can do with all of those Xboxes which will come onto the used market for $100... then $50.

Even so, while the capabilities of the Xbox are impressive, by the time they reach that price point, they'll probably occupy the same place that a Pentium-100 does today. With Linux, they'll make a tolerable router/switch/DSL box/etc. Or they'll make nifty devices to run a camera which keeps an eye on the coffee pot. *grin*

I can't really see the Xbox as a way to get Linux into every home, as a set-top, semi-generic "media" unit. But I can see that the folks at Lindows might use the information and experience they receive from the contest... to make an Xbox-like device, that could be that generic media unit. Time will tell.

04-14-2003 20:28:59

New MessageRE:XBox financially worth hacking? (modified 0 times) drleephd
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to make an Xbox-like device, that could be that generic media unit. Time will tell.


if they're going to do all that they need a business model... which means either monthly fees, a really expencive box, or both.
xbox is pretty easy to hack and can be done with a bios exploit now. then install xbox media center ( http://www.xboxmediacenter.com ) and you've got a great media unit for $139 (or less).

best place to read up on this is www.xbox-scene.com

05-20-2004 10:03:29

New MessageRE:XBox financially worth hacking? (modified 0 times) xboxhacker
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Xboxes are down to $149.99 now and I bought the first version (v1.0). It has been worth it already because I backed up my Halo game and a few weeks later, it got a horrible scratch and wouldn't work anymore. That tacked $50 off of my price. I spent $50 on an XBIT modchip and $69 on a 120 gig hdd. I was set from there. My xbox now has gentoox linux with live support, XBMC (Xbox Media Center), Evox, and a lot of other stuff. The good thing is that all of this software was free to downlod and easy to install. SO, in short, modding my xbox has been a great deal for me!
01-28-2005 18:03:08

New MessageRE:XBox financially worth hacking? (modified 0 times) Wild_Pencil
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Lucky you have a 1.0 box. The 1.6 version makes life difficult if you want to use your Xbox for multimedia -- the RAMDAC is proprietary, and hasn't been figured out yet.

Gentoo? Not for me, thanks.. I'd rather spend my time fine-tuning my applications, not screw around all night compiling them. My time is far more valuable than that, which is why I helped to port Fedora to the Xbox. Now I don't have to wait for a lone-wolf "Distro Maintainer" to build the packages for me -- I can use the official Fedora RPMs (which are regularly maintained), and I'm off and running just seconds after downloading the appropriate packages. It's all about productivity, IMHO.

Xebian *almost* filled my needs, but the whole GNU/Stallman mentality of Debian is a *HUGE* turn-off.

01-29-2005 19:27:59

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